Towing - single axle trailer?

[Jeremiahlee34]

With my car on order with Rush, now I am *rushing* to get a trailer set up.

My daily Model Y has a 3,500lb towing capacity so should be plenty but I would prefer the smallest trailer possible for charging efficiency.

Thoughts on a single axle trailer like this?
I figure with such a light car single axle will be alright?
Or any recommendations would be helpful.

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[John H]

You're absolutely insane, I love it.

3k axle, 1k trailer = 2k load capacity, you're fine there, just so long as it fits and you can balance it out.

 

[Jeremiahlee34]

Perfect

 

[bhargrave]

Should be fine

 

[JW2]

I have that exact trailer and i have used it with my Rush. It was difficult getting on and off. You will need race car ramps and will need to take the front body work off.

 

[Jeremiahlee34]

I have that exact trailer and i have used it with my Rush. It was difficult getting on and off. You will need race car ramps and will need to take the front body work off.

Great to know! I have one like this reserved for pickup.
I’ll get same race car ramps also.

I wonder if I could make some sort of winch system to pull the car up.

 

[JW2]

I had to use two car jacks and put them under the back of the trailer and detach the trailer for the SUV to get the clearance angle needed to load and unload. I needed extra guys to help with that. If you have a winch that would help. I would not recommend the trailer for hauling the rush with out modifying the rear gate, for it is not long enough to get proper clearance angles. Also the rear ramp acks as a parachute greatly diminishing gas mileage in a SUV. For example I used it to haul the rush on a 15 hour trip. My gas mileage dropped for 16 mpg to 8 mpg, where I use a much heaver double axel car hauler with out a ramp sticking up in the back on a 13 hour trip and I got 12 mpg. This is my experience if it helps any.

 

[bhargrave]

Great to know! I have one like this reserved for pickup.
I’ll get same race car ramps also.

I wonder if I could make some sort of winch system to pull the car up.

I bolted one of these to my floor: ZESUPER 3000 lb 12V DC Electric Winch for Towing ATV/UTV Off Road with Wireless Remote New Synthetic Rope Mounting Bracket https://a.co/d/0XVWYax

 

[John H]

I wonder if I could make some sort of winch system to pull the car up.

Yea just stick one on the front, with how light the car is you can just attach it anywhere basically. Just buy the cheapeast one you think will last. Hell 1 strong guy or 2 normal dudes could just tug a rope for you.

But for real, do not try to load this thing up under its own power.

 

[Jeremiahlee34]

I bolted one of these to my floor: ZESUPER 3000 lb 12V DC Electric Winch for Towing ATV/UTV Off Road with Wireless Remote New Synthetic Rope Mounting Bracket https://a.co/d/0XVWYax

Oh thats dope. Adding to my amazon cart. Definitely will put that on the front of the trailer.

What kind of ramps do you guys use?

@JW2 great to know about the fuel efficiency. Did you end up modifying the rear gate?

 

[JW2]

Oh thats dope. Adding to my amazon cart. Definitely will put that on the front of the trailer.

What kind of ramps do you guys use?

@JW2 great to know about the fuel efficiency. Did you end up modifying the rear gate?

Not yet, but it is easily removable and you can use aluminum atv ramps with the race car ramps and should give the clearance you need and fix the fuel mileage problem.

 

[bhargrave]

Oh thats dope. Adding to my amazon cart. Definitely will put that on the front of the trailer.

What kind of ramps do you guys use?

@JW2 great to know about the fuel efficiency. Did you end up modifying the rear gate?

Here are my ramps:
Race Ramps RR-TR-7-FLP 7" Trailer Ramp with Cut-Out,Black https://a.co/d/9CfPtUy

 

[Glenn Conser]

Also the rear ramp acks as a parachute greatly diminishing gas mileage in a SUV. For example I used it to haul the rush on a 15 hour trip. My gas mileage dropped for 16 mpg to 8 mpg, where I use a much heaver double axel car hauler with out a ramp sticking up in the back on a 13 hour trip and I got 12 mpg. This is my experience if it helps any.

I second this. You'd be better off covering the ramp frame with sheet metal, expanded metal is the worst for drag. One other thing to consider with a single axle trailer that has a ramp on the back is that while you may have the trailer balanced sitting still, going down the road the drag on the ramp will negate some or all of the tongue weight and the tongue will actually try to lift the rear of the tow vehicle. This will cause a lot of wear on the trailer coupling underjaw and it won't take long to wear it enough that it will no longer keep the coupling from disengaging. It will feel perfect when you hook it up, then it will disengage going down the road and punch a hole in the bodywork or rear window of your tow vehicle.

If you can find a way to remove the rear ramp, do it.

 

[bhargrave]

I second this. You'd be better off covering the ramp frame with sheet metal, expanded metal is the worst for drag. One other thing to consider with a single axle trailer that has a ramp on the back is that while you may have the trailer balanced sitting still, going down the road the drag on the ramp will negate some or all of the tongue weight and the tongue will actually try to lift the rear of the tow vehicle. This will cause a lot of wear on the trailer coupling underjaw and it won't take long to wear it enough that it will no longer keep the coupling from disengaging. It will feel perfect when you hook it up, then it will disengage going down the road and punch a hole in the bodywork or rear window of your tow vehicle.

If you can find a way to remove the rear ramp, do it.

I'm very paranoid about that connection breaking so I use a load distribution hitch. Even though the load is too light for the distribution to matter much, the hitch seriously pins down the tongue. Gives me peace of my mind.

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[Jeremiahlee34]

I second this. You'd be better off covering the ramp frame with sheet metal, expanded metal is the worst for drag. One other thing to consider with a single axle trailer that has a ramp on the back is that while you may have the trailer balanced sitting still, going down the road the drag on the ramp will negate some or all of the tongue weight and the tongue will actually try to lift the rear of the tow vehicle. This will cause a lot of wear on the trailer coupling underjaw and it won't take long to wear it enough that it will no longer keep the coupling from disengaging. It will feel perfect when you hook it up, then it will disengage going down the road and punch a hole in the bodywork or rear window of your tow vehicle.

If you can find a way to remove the rear ramp, do it.

This is insightful. I just placed my order with Rush last week and got the trailer the other day. So i have plenty of time to get that ramp off. I will definitely be taking it off.

Hey Glenn, I have an order down with Rush but have still never seen one in person, I would love to come out to High Plains next time you bring the rush out, if you’re open to it.
Just let me know, I’ll dm you my number

 

[Jcarr906]

I use a Futura single axle — mine is actually a 10’ motorcycle trailer without a stone guard so the front wheels rest on front edge and the nose extends almost to the hitch. You could use the normal single axle Futura trailer (I think it’s 13 or 14‘ bed length. But mine fits easily into a standard garage bay. I used this approach for my 2 prior track cars (a Zenos e10R) and a Lotus Exige V6 Cup R. The beauty of the Futura is both its very high I quality and that crotches and does not use ramp. Some pictures attached

 

[bhargrave]

I use a Futura single axle — mine is actually a 10’ motorcycle trailer without a stone guard so the front wheels rest on front edge and the nose extends almost to the hitch. You could use the normal single axle Futura trailer (I think it’s 13 or 14‘ bed length. But mine fits easily into a standard garage bay. I used this approach for my 2 prior track cars (a Zenos e10R) and a Lotus Exige V6 Cup R. The beauty of the Futura is both its very high I quality and that crotches and does not use ramp. Some pictures attachedView attachment 581
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That looks like msr Houston. Where ya been #39??

 

[Jcarr906]

That looks like msr Houston. Where ya been #39??

Naples FL since December — returning to Texas this week — will be at MSR-H this weekend with my Rush for the Drivers Edge event!

 

[bhargrave]

Naples FL since December — returning to Texas this week — will be at MSR-H this weekend with my Rush for the Drivers Edge event!

Gotcha. I'll be running Wednesday and Thursday there, but I'll try to swing by and meet you over the weekend. Have fun and be safe!

 

[PizzaDude]

I use a Futura single axle — mine is actually a 10’ motorcycle trailer without a stone guard so the front wheels rest on front edge and the nose extends almost to the hitch. You could use the normal single axle Futura trailer (I think it’s 13 or 14‘ bed length. But mine fits easily into a standard garage bay. I used this approach for my 2 prior track cars (a Zenos e10R) and a Lotus Exige V6 Cup R. The beauty of the Futura is both its very high I quality and that crotches and does not use ramp. Some pictures attachedView attachment 581
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That’s a super nice set up you have there. I have the one size up ( the Club sport) that I got for mine. Just waiting on the car. The extra space will be nice to put a pit bike off front but that small trailer is sweet. Has to be a breeze to move around and tow. The lowering deck on them is a very nice feature. My car should be here soon. Can‘t wait !