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Seanm7455 said:
David this is fascinating real world observations and the kind of things i need to hear. The operation costs you guys are showing are below what a spec miata i was driving 10 years ago cost and this car is significantly faster, just truly astounding metrics. It seems this car car has been well thought out. I was looking at Radicals after having driven a few of them, but the fun factor vs cost in this seems so much better. I need to find a place to try one out.
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I was about to put a deposit down on a used Radical SR3. In doing my diligence on radical owners forum the real costs of consumables became more transparent. Several stated overall running costs between 500-700/ hr all said and done. I made the 6 hour drive to look at the both the radical and Rush, and for me that rush was an easy win. The consumables on this thing are just unbeatable
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Axle rebuild

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Couple things to add, unless you're a masochist, plug the holes before packing with grease 3/16 vacuum caps work great. Or, if you want to be the indisputable coolest kid on the playground you can print your own custom plug + cover from TPU. ~80 grams is a standard amount of grease and it's already overkill

Reason I had these off was because the outsides were coming loose. I'm going to red thread lock them along with nordlocks, serviceability be damned, I refuse to let these come loose again. Little extra time during service vs peace of mind is an easy trade.

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Consumables life

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DrPyro2k said:
@Seanm7455 - David's numbers are fairly accurate from my use (HPDE so far)

I did about 14 hours on the OEM pads at MSR Houston. They still had quite a bit of life left and could have rotated them to wear them out more, but I wanted to try my "standard" PFC pads that I really like the feel of.

Tires lasted about 16 hours of run time before the fronts were gone. I struggled with understeer on the car initially. I'm just more use to a mid engined car that is more rotateable. I'm working on setup now to get it more to my liking.

Rotors show little to no wear even after 18 hours of operation. The PFC will be more aggressive on wear, but I have little concern with them at my local track.

Gas... This is funny, I was chatting with my buddy who runs a full 110 octane car and he will easily spend $1000 a day. I spent $70 for the entire day with the Rush....

Engine rebuild: Rush is advertising 150 hours or so... I figure if I get 100+ hours it beats most of the other "race car" engines that have around 40 to 80 rebuild cycle.
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David this is fascinating real world observations and the kind of things i need to hear. The operation costs you guys are showing are below what a spec miata i was driving 10 years ago cost and this car is significantly faster, just truly astounding metrics. It seems this car car has been well thought out. I was looking at Radicals after having driven a few of them, but the fun factor vs cost in this seems so much better. I need to find a place to try one out.
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Tank Rubbing

DrPyro2k
Just a word of caution for those people that may have disassembled their body panels to wrap. Apparently we weren't too careful on the reassembly, and have noticed that the cooling ducts have rubbed on the fuel tank. I have the "original" body panels, not the newer SMC panel versions, so not sure if that is partly the reason. But it is worthwhile to keep an eye on it.


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Rotor temp info.

DrPyro2k
I think there is only one type/brand of that multi-color shift stuff, I had the exact same piece of paper.....

The best I can figure out it does have an expiration (but not labeled as such). I tried to measure rotor temperatures after I opened the bottle a couple of years before when I upgraded my track car brake package, The paint showed crazy high temperatures (like the H color) but the paint on the actual side of the pad (that marked the version of compound) hadn't even burnt off or changed colors. I tried mixing and a few other simple things, but it always showed the ultra high temperatures. No fade, no change in color of the pad surface, or even the paint being burt off was seen on any of the pads. So we tossed the bottle. Not sure what or why... it just was...
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DrPyro2k
@Seanm7455 - David's numbers are fairly accurate from my use (HPDE so far)

I did about 14 hours on the OEM pads at MSR Houston. They still had quite a bit of life left and could have rotated them to wear them out more, but I wanted to try my "standard" PFC pads that I really like the feel of.

Tires lasted about 16 hours of run time before the fronts were gone. I struggled with understeer on the car initially. I'm just more use to a mid engined car that is more rotateable. I'm working on setup now to get it more to my liking.

Rotors show little to no wear even after 18 hours of operation. The PFC will be more aggressive on wear, but I have little concern with them at my local track.

Gas... This is funny, I was chatting with my buddy who runs a full 110 octane car and he will easily spend $1000 a day. I spent $70 for the entire day with the Rush....

Engine rebuild: Rush is advertising 150 hours or so... I figure if I get 100+ hours it beats most of the other "race car" engines that have around 40 to 80 rebuild cycle.
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  • Question
Front tow hook

nick_dk
What are you guys doing for a front tow hook. I know that one can pull the car from the roll cage but it seems like a traditional front tow hook would be a better solution. I’m curious how tech is going to feel about it when I try and get my logbook. Hopefully they don’t care it’s not on the car. Anyway. What if anything is anyone doing?
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Seanm7455 said:
Hey John thank you for the response.
By any chance did you happen to be at the chin event last Friday? Because I was on track in a rented Clubsport and there was a white SR on track with me. That car is what got me to look all this up. I really wish I had gone up to the owner and talked.
Hope it was you, your a hell of a driver.
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Yea that was me that was basically my first day besides a break in/shakedown at the firm. @Cale Blevins I get a commission right?
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Rush SR vs Radical SR1 vs Radical SR3

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I want to add something from the perspective of a relatively new tracker who has virtually no mechanical talent but who does like to drive. I have an early chassis so will be spending this season on new panels, a second set of black wheels, new ARs, a set of slicks, a spare chain (which I don’t need yet), a set of spare pads (which I don’t need yet). It won’t break the bank.

But, what had been most important to me is the amazing support my first season out from David and Blair and Cale AND the owners in this forum. The amount of experience and generosity is truly priceless to me.

I have had a ball learning to handle this car with all the weight behind me, lower top end to be sure than my daily, but so much more responsive all around on tight tracks. For someone experienced considering this car I can only say being on the ground floor of a new player in high performance options had its own set of invaluable rewards.
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David Hosie
Yes it was likely John on track with you.

link to spare part price list. https://rush.sr/resources/raw-spare-parts-price-list.24/

Rotars are $121.87 you should get around 35-40 days from a set at Sebring

Our standard pad is $74.26 per axle should get around 16 days from a set at Sebring if properly seated and discs rubbed in.

Tires are $696 per set expect 8-10 days at Sebring.

you will use 5 gal of 93 pump gas per 30 min session there.

$200 for chain every 16-20 days.

Engine is $3000 for basic rebuild + any additional part. Base this on 150 hrs.
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Consumables life

J
There is a price list in resources. Rotors are 130, the "stock" pads are $70 per axle. Tires are ~600 a set, wheel bearings $80. You really can't get much cheaper. IDK how accurate the cost per hour is, but that should give you an idea of how inexpensive it is to operate.

I'll be at the next chin sebring event if you'll be there.

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RAW Spare Parts Price List

Spare Parts Price List. This is NOT everything, but it's certainly a good start.
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Question for a maybe buyer. Ive seen the operating costs been stated at around 80 dollars per hour. This seems extraordinarily low. How long are brake pads lasting? Tires? Rotors? This is a questions as an HPDE driver not a racer. Usually do 5-30 min sessions per day and home track is Sebring.
any insight you can give me would be fantastic!
is there somewhere i can look at the price of the rotors and pads also?
thank you so much
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adjustable seat back support

RushR.Rentals
now that the seat is on sliders and needing seat back support with 7.5 inches of seat adjustment at ten different locking positions the common seat back supports with the sliding round bars will not work.
so I started drawing some of my thoughts on how I could make one that will fit in the 1.5" of space from the harness bar to the seat back and quickly extend out to about 7.5" with the seat slid all the way forward.
this is who I have so far.


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NASA ST/TT 2023 Qualification for Rush SR

Glenn Conser
David Hosie said:
Guys, we are currently working with NASA to get this mod factor reduced. As you will see above the standard mod factor for Sport Racers "Prototypes" with a monocoque chassis is higher at -3.4 for ST2. Obviously that is not us but the current highest mod factor for any other car is a -1, we believe the car should be allowed to be run around 1325# with slicks in ST2. Please note this only applies to cars running in ST2. If you are running in a RUSH SR run group the RUSH rules must be followed, Nankang AR-1s and the stock wing.
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David, any word on these negotiations?
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